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Topic Title: Russian Giant 1956
Topic Summary: The new FIG rule change takes us back to 1956
Created On: 05/17/2007 10:11 AM
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05/17/2007 10:11 AM
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RonBrant

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Here you can see what the newest rule change on High Bar requires for a Russian / Inverted Giant to receive C value.

If you perform the Inverted Giant as you have seen in the modern era, it is now a B and in the same box as the el grip giant.

Thank goodness this update was made. I was afraid the sport of gymnastics was progressing in the develop of skills and technique. Now if we can just get the big arching handstand back then we are really making progess!

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05/17/2007 04:03 PM
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MikeBurns

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Ron,

It seems the inverted giant evolved from the Russian giant in a very progressive manner. The invert is a more elegant version of the russian giant because the gymnast is allowed to actually show a handstand position. If we all go back to doing the russian giant to receive C value (fat chance of that happening) then the FIG TC members will need to create a list of deductions that will handle the fact that they wont be able to perform this skill in the hand stand position.

For the past 30-40 years gymnasts have been doing the inverted giant and receiving C credit. Where does the FIG TC get off changing the entire history of high bar over this time period? The arrogance they display in this ridiculous directive further exemplifies how far removed from the reality of gymnastics these 7 gentlemen have strayed.

Mike Burns
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05/21/2007 08:33 AM
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MikeBurns

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Ron,

The picture you posted of Menichelli doing the Russian giant is a clear indication of the evolution of the skill. I assume Titov's Russian giant in 1956 was the original standard. In 1962 Menichelli comes along and brings it to the next level because of his incredible shoulder flexibility. In the words of Adrian Stoica, "it's very clear" that the Russian giant flowed progressively to what many generations of gymnasts and coaches now know as an inverted giant. Those of us who are in a gym daily know that no one will ever teach a Russian giant again. It's obsolete gymnastics and has been extinct for about 40 years. If any of the FIG TC members stepped in a gym and consulted coaches or gymnasts anywhere in the world they would come to realize just how silly this new rule is.

I would like to know how many coaches are planning on teaching a Russian Giant to any of their gymnasts. If you are considering it then I would recommend you running for a spot on the Technical Committee - I'm sure they would appreciate your company.

Mike
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