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Topic Title: Progression in the Sport of Gymnastics
Topic Summary: Technique
Created On: 05/22/2007 11:00 AM
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 05/22/2007 11:00 AM
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RonBrant

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Mike, you make some great points. The sport has developed technically over the past 40 years. An excellent example has been posted here at the Coaches Internet Cafe - Titov vs Menichelli. (1956 into 1960's) This development of the skill was excellent. It is exactly what gymnasts and coaches should be doing in the sport. Advancing the sport in both skill and technical development. Even a stutz on Parallel Bars has been refined over the same 40 years. I would say the biggest point here is that the present day Inverted giant is aesthetically better for gymnastics over the older version of the Russian Giant. There is a difference bewteen an el-grip and an inverted gianted in both wrist and body position. The new question now is with the older version returning with a higher skill value what is the performance requirement. The old Russian giant does not go to a handstand so, what are the excution deductions for this? This A Panel rule change reflects the direction of the sport. What are other coaches thinking as far as the direction the sport is taking?
 05/22/2007 12:14 PM
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MikeBurns

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Ron,


It seems the FIG TC wants to move the sport backwards. Rather than admitting they made a mistake in Aarhus with Maras's HB routine in finals, they decided to make this new rule about the Russian giant. This is not progress. This is a lack of responsibility and the gymnasts and coaches are the ones who suffer the consequences. Does anyone think the coaching communitry will start teaching Titov-style Russian giants? I would like to know who, if anyone, will do this.

If we continue to let the TC create rules that do this to our sport then we are crazy for allowing it to happen. As coaches, we have absoloutely no voice in the process and that seems like something that needs to change. This Coaches Internet Cafe should give coaches around the world a place to openly discuss these issues and then create a plan of action. The frustration level in the coaching ranks is very high so unless we organize and develop a concerted voice then we can expect more of the same from the FIG.

Mike



Edited: 05/22/2007 at 12:15 PM by MikeBurns
 11/16/2007 02:54 AM
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coachb

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Regarding Titov style inverts...as a coach, I just gave up on inverts all together. No longer worth my time. I refuse to go back and "correct" any inverted giants my kids already have, so, we just wont use them anymore. Kind of sad, was a fun skill...emphasis on the the "was" part.
 11/18/2007 08:49 PM
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RonBrant

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Yes, a good point, there are several skills that have been lost due to rule changes, that is a shame fro sure. Lets hope future rules will reconsider the direction of these changes.
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