If you want to see some of the changes being suggested then read the coachs internet cafe blog at

www.coachsinternetcafe.wordpress.com

Skills with a backward straddle cut...

I am assuming that kip to reverse straddle cut handstand, and the popular dip-swing, straddle cut to handstand are going to be broken up, but does that apply to the group 2 front-uprise, reverse straddle cut to HS as well?

Also, that document talks about combo passes... are we talking three skill combos? Could an athlete use the following?
- double layout, punch front salto (tucked) with 1/2 turn? AND
- whip 1/2, front layout 2/1 twist, front salto (tucked) with 1/2 turn?
and would they then still be able to use a front layout, punch double salto (tucked)

Additionally, I don't know if anyone else was having this problem...but I couldn't reply to anything for the last three weeks until I went into my profile settings and changed the editor from WYSIWYG to HTML.

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Kevin
Lets see, it appears that the reverse straddle cut skills will be devalued and not broken up so, for example, front uprise reverse cut will be a B skill now.
Floor Exercise is explained more as the following -
All connections between saltos that include a D or more value
will receive + 0,10 points. If both saltos are D and over + 0,20
points.These connection values will be awarded only in one side
Not Both. For connections purposes, it is not mandatory that both
elements be among the counting 10 best.

So, yes the passes you have mentioned could be done. Only two diagonal passes in a row at a time. As we understand now.

I will ask the question about the WYSIWYG issue to the web builder. Thanks!

Kevin:
So, what I forgot to mention is that there is no C + C connection

So possible connections for .1 would include:

* front layout, front layout (2/1 twist)
* double layout (backwards), front salto (1/2 twist)
* whip back, back layout (3/2 twist and 3/3 twist)
* front layout, front double (tuck & pike)
* whip, double layout

Does anyone have any D+C or higher combos to list out?

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Lets see - yeah you are getting it and if this holds up there could be a .1 connection for a D+A combination too. As I mentioned you can not connected on both sides of the same skill so the present pass like - Whip 1/2 - Front 2/1 - barani would only get a .1 connection

So, Ro 5/2 - front 1/1 would be a D+C or RO 5/2 - Front 2/1 is D+D and this combination is being performed at the World level now.

Hope this is helping, of course the new code is still not official.

I have in front of me the slides from Butch Zunich's Code of Points update and have some questions, if there is anyone who can anser them for me:

On the first slide about rings it says, "Honmas, Kips or Front Uprises to Maltese, Inverted Cross, etc will be evaluated as two elements." The "etc" can mean a lot of things. Does this mean that every EG III skill that begins with a Honma, Front Uprise, or Kip will now be evaluated as two separate elements (thus striking it from EG III)? But Back Uprise to Cross, Planche, Straddle Planche, Inverted Cross, and Maltese is one element?

On the second slide about parallel bars it says that Swing to HS will be removed from the code. What then is a gymnast to do after a Front Uprise? Must there be a "real skill" or at least a pirouette?

I'm not sure what the difference is between a Pineda and Cassina on HB. Can someone explain?

It also states that "elgrip hop to overgrip or undergrip or with 1/2 turn" will be eliminated. I'm not sure I know what that skill is. Could someone explain that?

Last question: The presentation lays out some "Junior Rules." Will these rules affect our JO Program?

Thanks for any help that I get from anybody.

And Kevin, here's my pick for the coolest D + C combos on FX:
Back 3/2 + Double front tuck
Arabian double front tuck + Front 1/1
Double back layout + Front 1&3/4

Ok, let me get these answered over the next two days and give you an update. Just been busy with the Olympics coming but I will get them.

Ok, lets try to answer the questions as we know of right now, things are still subject to change.

1. SR - the skills that are split into teo skills would create to element groups as well. So, these strength parts are no longer from swing and are single strength skills in elment group IV. Yes. certain skills have been left alone like the back uprise to maltese.

2. PB - yes, the swing to HS is removed but a handstand hold is still an A skill. So, a front uprise to HS is skill an A and A.

3. HB - The Pineda vs the Cassina - this has been asked interntionally as well. But in general the Pineda is a Geinger over the bar with a 1/2 twist so a little like a barani out and Cassina is a Kovacs stretched with a 1/1 twist a little more like a 1/1 out. Reality not much different.

4. HB - an el grip (eagle grip) and hop to over or under grip or hop to pirouette. You see it when a gymnast completes a el grip and transitions out of it to a front giant or back giant

5. The FIG rules will mostly like not to used in the JO Rules, but the final FIG Junior Rules will be evaluated to determine this.

Hope this helps

It does help. Thank you very much! Just a few more clarifications:

Could you be more specific as to what EG III elements on Rings will be split up? If you could break it up into (1)the swinging skill and (2)the strength skill. For example, (1) honmas to (2) invert, maltese, planche, straddle planche, and cross.

So before on PB when I was counting three skills with my athlete doing A front uprise, A swing to hs, and A hs hold, now I only count two skills (A front uprise and A hs hold). That's fine with me.

The Cassina and Pineda seem to be only an issue of timing. Similar to a discussion on Arabian style skills vs. back twisting skills. (But theoretically, an athlete could perform both of these skills and get credit. If so, does the timing of the twist determine how these skills are evaluated?)

Regarding HB, would my athlete still be getting credit for a full spin to el-grip, swing thru the bottom in el-grip, and hop out at the top and continue with an undergrip front giant?

Thanks for your help! I really appreciate it.

In regards to:

Regarding HB, would my athlete still be getting credit for a full spin to el-grip, swing thru the bottom in el-grip, and hop out at the top and continue with an undergrip front giant?

I would think that you would still get credit for the full turn to el-grip (GROUP 1), but not the B value dorsal hop. I would assume you would need to do a whole invert or el-grip giant to fufill that requirement.

I am not sure, I make most of my JO guys do a Jam to fufill their dorsal, because you can combo Jam 1/2 and Jam 1/1 down the road. I am avoiding as many pirouettes as possible because of the steep angle deductions.

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www.eventsatpga.com

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Whoops, I did not communicate that properly. I wasn't asking if he would still get credit for the full spin (EG I), but for the EG IV el-grip swing (A part).

Thanks

Sorry for the delay, the Olympic Team is keeping me busy but thats ok lol
I will look over the questions and make sure I have the best answer. At least it appears that there will be some easing of the deductions on HB for turning skills with only a .1 and .3 deduction and the .5 deduction removed.
Ok I will be back with my answers - thanks for checking in

Ok, back as the Olympic Team has headed home and is preparing to leave for Beijing. Lets see, these questions are still up in the air alittle but, after checking, I am not sure what will happen as far as getting credit for the El Grip requipment since the hop out is no longer recognized. I adid sk several judges and we have not heard yet. The safe thing is to go over the bar. You are safe doing the Jam and probably will recieve less in deductions. I am hoping to hear more about the new code once we get to Beijing and near the end of the Olympic Games.